Engines by Colour

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Page created by T May 5th 2007:

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Engines by Colour:

The Significance of Holden Engine Colour:

Holden marked technological changes in their engines by a change in the Engine's paint colour. Submitted by Qute on Thu, 03/05/2007 - 09:14.

Grey 138 cu in Holden Six Cylinder Engine. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Stock EJ.
 

Grey Motor

Grey Motor:

The "Grey" motor was released with the 48-215 in 1948. It originally displaced 132.5 cubic inches but the capacity was increased to 138 cubic inches with the release of the FB. The grey had a 4 main bearing crank and the engine mount arrangement was one at the front and two at the back, either side of the gearbox bellhousing. They are called Grey motors because they were painted grey...  

Holden 149 engine as used in EH and HD Holdens. Note the original colour has a brownish tint rather than being pure red. This is called Holden Red. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Peyser.

 

Holden 179 engine as used in EH and HD Holdens. Note the original colour has a brownish tint rather than being pure red. This is called Holden Red. Click to Enlargen. Photo by HRAmbo.


 

Holden High Compression 161 Engine from an HR Holden. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Matt Hipsley.

   
 

Red Motor

Red Motor:

The Red motor (in 6 cyl guise) was a new design and was released with the EH in 1963. The Red came in 130, 138, 149, 161, 173, 179, 186 and 202 cubic inch displacements as well as 3.3 litres although the 130 was only used in export versions and the 138 was only used in LC/LJ Torries (AFAIK). The Red had a 7 bearing crank and had one mount either side of the block about a third of the way along the motor with the third mount being under the gearbox's extension housing. These Engines had 4 Balance Weights on the Crankshaft. The last red sixes were called 3.3's. They were unchanged from the 202's fitted to HZ, HX and UC except for the 3.3 in the casting and the Sticker on the Air Cleaner. These are called Red Motors (Holden Red, Bright Right or Rocket Red) because they were painted red...    

 
Holden 179 engine as used in an EH Holden. This Engine is painted Rocket Red which is not the original colour. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Streetneat.
     
Holden X2 painted in the original Bright Red colour. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Dave (Qute).
Red 3.3 Engine in a VB Commodore. Paint is Rocket Red. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Redsix

 
Red 3.3 in an HZ Holden. Paint is Rocket Red. Click to Enlargen. Photo by HX_HZ_Monaros.
 
Holden 307 V8 Engine first used in HK and painted in Rocket Red. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Ratj.

 
 
 

 V8's

 

V8's:

In 1969 (IIRC) Holden released the Aussie designed and built 253 and 308 V8's. These were reportedly 10 KG's lighter than their Chev equivalents and were painted (you guessed it) red.  

the very first 308's had hp on the side to differentiate it from the 253 which was in production slightly before it.    

Holden 308 V8 engine in an HT Holden. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Crashbox.
3.3 Litre (3300cc) blue six in a VH Commodore. Click to enlargen. Photo by 82VH.

 

Blue Motor 

 

Blue Motor:

In 1981 (IIRC) with the release of the VC Commodore and WB range, Holden gave the old 6 (by this time only the 173 and 202 were being produced) and V8 motors an overhaul with the 6's getting new 12 port heads, electronic ignition and 2 barrel carbs. This was known internally at Holden as the XT5 upgrade. At the same time, they changed the EGR ports on the heads of the V8's and fitted electronic ignition to them too. The bottom end of the 202 also came in for some rework but the 173, 253 and 308 bottom ends remained basically unaltered. The Blue 3.3 Motor Crankshaft is made from Cast Nodular Iron has 7 Main Bearings and 12 Balance weights. The Blue 2850 had Main Bearing Journals the same size as the Blue 3.3, a 12 Port Head and Air Injection into the Exhaust Ports on the Head. These motors are known as Blue motors because they were painted Blue...

Front view of the EFI VK 3.3 Commodore Engine Bay. Click to Enlargen. Photo by Hot308VK

 

Black Motor

Black Motor:

The last of the old series motors were the black motors in the VK's (202 and 308/304 only). The Cylinder Heads received improved Gas Flow and Valve Changes. Not a lot changed and I am not sure why Holden decided to change the colour of the paint... 

 
EE2687 Holden Red Engine Paint Can for EH/HD/HR Holden Engines (not X2's). Photo by HRAmbo. Click to Enlargen.

 

   
EE2687 Holden Red Engine Paint Can for EH/HD/HR Holden Engines (not X2's). Photo by HRAmbo. Click to Enlargen.
  
HTH (and that my memory is close to the mark...).

Cheers...Dave

End of submission by Dave.


Submission by T May 5th 2007:
EST VK Engine. Click to Enlargen. Photo by LMH.


Both the EST and EFI black engines were changed from the Blue 6.

Both black engines had the head ported and polished as standard but the EFI VK Engine had tougher pistons, increased coolant flow between the head and block plus improved oil flow to the timing gears.

  End of submission by T.  

179 Engine Paint and Colour:

Found the 179 engine colour ! its by Motospray part number EE2687 they just call it Holden Red.  

Rocket Red:

Mr.Jones on Wed, 11/02/2009 - 09:48. For a 202 the paint you are chasing is HK Rocket Red 10890 Leroy  

Red Engine Paint and Colour:

 

Hi Guys. This question has been raised & answered before. There are 3 different Holden engine reds. The original EH/HD/HR (Exc. X2 & S) are the ones painted the darker red, it is available in spray cans in a brand called 'Motospray' HD 179 X2, HR 186 X2 & 186 S are painted a bright red called X2 Engine Red, this one is not available in spray cans. All engineS from HK to HZ including Toranas & VB Commodore used 'HK Rocket Red'. A few different companies have this in spray cans & it is different to Chevy Orange. Dr Terry  

Motospray Product Numbers:

  Submitted by HarryO on Thu, 21/06/2007 - 09:05.
the current Dulux (PPG) code for Grey Motor engine enamel is 393-10367 Dulux Autocolour Holden Engine Grey GMH
End of submission by HarryO  

Holden Paint Name
 Holden Model and Engine Rare Spares Number
  Holden Engine Grey  FX FJ FE FC FB EK EJ 132 138  PP427

     

Holden Paint Name
Holden Model and Engine
Dulux Product Number
 Holden Engine Grey  FX FJ FE FC FB EK EJ 132 138  393-10367
     

         

 Holden Paint Name
Holden Model and Engine
Motospray Product Number
VHT
  Holden Red  EH/HD/HR 149, 161, 179., 186  EE2687 -
 Bright Red
  HD X2, HR X2, HR 186S
 EE2685 -
 Rocket Red
HK - VB 138 161 186 173 202 253 308
 EE2686 SP119
  Rocket Red  LC - UC 138 161 186 173 202
  EE2686 SP119

   

 Holden Paint Name Holden Model and Engine
 Motospray Product Number VHT Product Number Duplicolour Product Number
 GM Blue           VC WB      2850                EE2655
SP135 DE 1608
 GM Blue           VC VH WB 3300                EE2655 SP135 DE 1608
 GM Blue           VC VH WB  4.2                EE2655 SP135 DE 1608
 GM Blue           VC VH        5.0                EE2655 SP135 DE 1608

   


X2 Aircleaner Colour:

I did say i didn't know, but i did paint mine the colour of my monaro, which is camaro gold......the code is 567-12186. End of submission by Blissy. Silver on HD , gold for HR.

Block ID:

 

Count the welsh plugs on the starter side of the block 3=149, 5 (3 big, 2 small) = 179,186,161 ect
Cheers

Q-ball.  

Incorrect Colour Warning:

VHT SP1202 HOLDEN BLUE should be avoided for engine colour because it is a deep royal type blue. The correct blue motor engine paint is VHT SP135.

Links:

VHT Colour Listing

Motospray Engine Enamel Listing

130

132

Grey 138

Red 138

149

179

161

186

186S

173

201

202

Red 3.3

Blue 3.3

2850 (Blue Engine)

Black 3.3

253

308

HRAmbo's Shed 

Engine Paints

Blue Motor Colour match info

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